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Presumptive
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The short answer
Nehmer is a class-action set of court orders, now written into 38 CFR 3.816. For class members, an Agent Orange presumptive award can take an effective date from an earlier claim or an earlier denial, even when 38 U.S.C. 5110(g) would normally stop payment at the date the new presumption took effect. The class is a Vietnam veteran with a covered herbicide disease, or a surviving spouse, child, or parent of a deceased Vietnam veteran who died from a covered herbicide disease. Covered diseases are the Agent Orange Act of 1991 presumptions other than chloracne. This is not the ordinary intent-to-file clock. For that clock, see VA disability back pay.
Why this rule exists
In the 1980s, Vietnam veterans sued VA over how it handled herbicide claims. The case is Nehmer v. United States Department of Veterans Affairs, No. CV-86-6160 TEH (N.D. Cal.). Court orders required VA to assign retroactive effective dates that ordinary liberalizing-law rules would have blocked.
Congress later let VA write those orders into the Code of Federal Regulations. 38 CFR 3.816 is that write-up. The Federal Register notices from 2003 explain the conflict: 38 U.S.C. 5110(g) and 38 CFR 3.114 generally keep a new presumption from paying before the regulation's effective date. Nehmer requires an earlier date for class members when the earlier claim or denial is the right one.
If you are not a class member, 3.816 does not rewrite your effective date. If you are a class member, the ordinary "one year from the new regulation" story is the wrong story.
Who is in the class
38 CFR 3.816(b)(1) defines a Nehmer class member as:
- A Vietnam veteran who has a covered herbicide disease, or
- A surviving spouse, child, or parent of a deceased Vietnam veteran who died from a covered herbicide disease
"Covered herbicide disease" means a disease for which the Secretary established a presumption under the Agent Orange Act of 1991, Public Law 102-4, other than chloracne, as provided in 38 CFR 3.309(e).
That class language is about Vietnam veterans and those diseases. It is not a general PACT Act back-pay statute. It is not Camp Lejeune. It is not every later herbicide location. Blue Water Navy service can put a veteran inside "Vietnam" for presumption purposes after Procopio and Public Law 116-23. That is a service question. See Blue Water Navy and Procopio. Whether a particular Blue Water award also gets a Nehmer date still depends on class membership and the claim history in 3.816.
I am not listing every current 3.309(e) disease here. The list has grown. Use the live Agent Orange page and the current 3.309(e) text.
How the disability effective date is assigned
If a class member is entitled to compensation for a covered herbicide disease, 38 CFR 3.816(c) assigns the date as follows.
If VA denied compensation for the same covered disease in a decision issued between September 25, 1985, and May 3, 1989, the effective date is the later of the date VA received that earlier claim or the date the disability arose. Minor differences in disease names do not defeat that match if the record shows it was the same disease.
If the claim was pending on May 3, 1989, or was received between that date and the effective date of the statute or regulation that created the presumption, the effective date is the later of the date VA received the claim or the date the disability arose. A claim counts if the application and statements show an intent to claim that disease, or if VA denied that same disease in a decision in that window.
If that earlier claim was received within one year of separation, the effective date is the day after separation.
If those rules are not met, VA falls back to 38 CFR 3.114 and 3.400. That is the ordinary world.
How DIC dates are assigned
38 CFR 3.816(d) does the same job for DIC when the death was due to a covered herbicide disease.
An earlier DIC denial between September 25, 1985, and May 3, 1989, can set the date to the later of that earlier claim or the date of death.
A DIC claim pending on May 3, 1989, or received before the presumption's effective date, can set the date to the later of the claim or the date of death. A surviving spouse's or child's death-pension claim is treated as a DIC claim under 38 CFR 3.152(b)(1).
If that claim arrived within one year of the veteran's death, the effective date is the first day of the month of death.
Again, if the Nehmer hooks are not met, ordinary DIC effective-date rules apply.
The part that overrides the usual statute
38 CFR 3.816(e) says that when (c)(1), (c)(2), (d)(1), or (d)(2) is satisfied, VA assigns that date without regard to 38 U.S.C. 5110(g) or 38 CFR 3.114. That is the entire point of the regulation.
The section still will not pay a person who was not a qualifying survivor at the time of the earlier claim. It also has a special rule for Republic of Vietnam service that ended before August 5, 1964, tied to January 1, 1997 and Public Law 104-275, section 505. Those early-service files need a careful read of 3.816(e)(2).
Payment if the class member dies first
If a class member entitled to retroactive benefits under the listed paragraphs dies before payment, VA pays the unpaid amount to the first existing payee in this order:
- The class member's spouse (the person legally married to the class member at death), regardless of current marital status
- The child or children, regardless of age or marital status, in equal shares
- The parent or parents, regardless of dependency, in equal shares
- The estate
"Child" here includes natural and adopted children, and stepchildren who were in the household at death. "Parent" includes natural and adoptive parents, with a rule for successive parents.
38 U.S.C. 5121(c) and 38 CFR 3.1000(c), which normally require a survivor to file for accrued benefits, do not apply to these payments. VA is supposed to identify the payee from the claims file. Payment under this paragraph bars a later accrued claim for the same money.
That is another reason Nehmer is not "just file accrued." The class order created its own payee list.
What you still should not expect
VA's Adjudication Procedures Manual has long said VA must search its records and award Nehmer retro when a new presumption is added, without a new claim for an earlier effective date. That duty does not mean every Agent Orange grant includes a 1980s check. If there was no earlier claim, no pending claim, and no denial in the windows, 3.816(c)(4) sends you back to ordinary rules.
I am not publishing a class-recovery total or a sample back-pay figure. Those numbers get invented constantly. Your date is a function of your claim history, your diagnosis date, and the regulation that added the disease.
If you think a covered disease was denied years ago and a later presumption now applies, an accredited representative can compare the old decision to 3.816. A supplemental claim may still be the practical filing if the case is sitting closed. The legal effective-date rule is still 3.816, not the usual one-year liberalizing-law cap.
FAQs
Is Nehmer the same as an intent to file?
No. An intent to file can protect an ordinary effective date for a later complete claim. Nehmer can reach a previously denied or pending herbicide claim even when a new presumption would otherwise start the clock at the regulation date. See the back-pay article for the ordinary rules.
Who is a Nehmer class member?
A Vietnam veteran with a covered herbicide disease, or a surviving spouse, child, or parent of a deceased Vietnam veteran who died from a covered herbicide disease. Covered diseases are Agent Orange Act presumptions other than chloracne.
Do I have to file a new claim for Nehmer retro?
VA is supposed to identify and pay class members when a new covered disease is added. If a claim is closed and you believe an old denial matches a now-covered disease, talk to an accredited representative about whether a supplemental filing is still needed to get the file reviewed.
Can survivors be paid if the veteran died before the retro check?
Yes, under 38 CFR 3.816(f), in a set order, without the usual accrued-benefits application. That payment bars a later accrued claim for the same amount.
Does every Agent Orange grant get a 1985 effective date?
No. The earlier date has to fit 3.816(c) or (d). If it does not, VA uses 3.114 and 3.400.
Is this the same as Blue Water Navy retro?
No. Blue Water Navy changed who is presumed exposed. Nehmer changed how far back certain class awards can pay. A file can involve both. They are still different rules.
Sources
- 38 CFR 3.816, Awards under the Nehmer Court Orders
- 68 FR 4132 (proposed rule explaining the court orders)
- 68 FR 50966 (final rule)
- Agent Orange exposure and disability compensation (VA.gov, last updated September 16, 2025)
Disclaimer: Educational content only. Not legal or medical advice. Confirm against the veteran's actual notice and current eCFR / VA.gov. For claim-specific help, use a VA-accredited VSO, claims agent, or attorney.
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